Letter from the closet

Published: January 29, 2009, 4:00 pm ET

Editor’s Note: The Collegian reserves the right to publish anonymous submissions only if an author’s well-being is at stake and the article’s message is deemed worthy of publication.

As a closeted non-heterosexual male at the University of Richmond, my experiences on this campus are drastically different than those of heterosexuals.

People stay in the closet for many reasons — family, religious, financial, profession, social and safety. The Gay Lesbian Straight Educational Network found that nine in 10 LGBT teens report having been verbally harassed during the past school year, and almost half have been physically harassed because of their sexual orientation. In 2007, 16.6 percent of hate crimes were motivated by a sexual orientation bias, according to the FBI.

Richmond is not free from prejudice against non-straight students. We’ve seen our cars keyed, whiteboards defaced and derogatory remarks — both verbal and electronic — hurled our way. Once, residents in my dorm said they would rather have a barn animal as a roommate than a gay one.

I distance myself from the hatred, confusion and distrust by altering the ways I talk, walk, dress and look, lest I be accused of being a “fag.” What if I look at males too much or my clothes match too well? Instead, I look down and intentionally mismatch my clothing. What if I sit with a guy too often at lunch or what if I listen to the “wrong” genre of music?

Weekend parties are no different. A straight male can easily saunter up to a girl and dance, but a gay male cannot do the same with another male. Two females are encouraged to dance together, but two male dancers are not. Recently, one fraternity forced their pledges to serve drinks in shirts that said: “Punish me. [I’m] gay”.

Those examples highlight the campus’s widespread heterosexism, defined as bias in favor of opposite-sex sexuality and relationships. Heterosexism includes presumptions that heterosexual or opposite-sex attractions and relationships are the norm, bathrooms should be segregated by sex and rules about inviting guests to socials, among others.

My confidants wonder why I won’t come out of the closet, but I see no reason to introduce myself as a non-heterosexual. If you don’t introduce yourself as straight, why should I introduce myself as homosexual? Staying in the closet offers protection from a world where homosexuals are executed in Iran, banned from military duties, outlawed from donating blood and barred from marriage.

Coming out is a process as endless as its audiences, a point made by Yoshino in the book “Covering”. I don’t need to be an icon of homosexuality just as others don’t need to be the representatives for their minority or majority classifications.

I would come out of the closet if I knew I was entering a mildly safe world. In this community, discontinuing the use of derogatory remarks such as “that’s gay” is a reasonable start. It’s often said in the context of negativity, implying that homosexuality is bad or stupid.

Promoting education and openness does not rest solely on the shoulders of the LBGQTPOPATQITBA (sexual minority) community. The heterosexual majority also carries responsibility, and I find it disheartening that the Richmond community does not respond to heterosexism and phrases such as “that’s gay” as it has done with other instances of bias.

Eliminating those words from your vocabulary not only supports tolerance, but also exhibits intelligence. And tolerance, not necessarily acceptance, is all that I ask of people.

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  • AMICUS

    If you prick us, do we not bleed?
    if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison
    us, do we not die?

    You may listen to this. Or choose not to. Ignore the truth by ignoring our existence. You may pretend we do not exist, but we are here. We, the queers, LBGQTPOPATQITBA, have arrived. We walk among you. And yet we have always been here. Really, we’re not all that much different. Were you to see me on campus, you’d have no idea. And the honest truth is that if you did, I do not think you’d like me any less. I am a homosexual. But this is only one part of my identity. One identity, many facets. And so it is for all of us.

    I write this in support of the anonymous author of “Letter from the closet”. In the past few days I have heard, “If this person is so concerned about the sexual minority community, why doesn’t he or she just come out?” The climate at the University of Richmond, however, does not yet allow this possibility for sexual minorities. There are quite a few of us here. But we are afraid. Deeply afraid. To be out is to be exposed, left open to merciless ridicule and physical harm.

    Some members of this underground community attempt to come out to friends, attempt to broach the subject with references to gay culture, but eventually give up in disgust. These friends, to avoid the discomforting knowledge of associating with a potential pariah, pretend to be dumb and try to reason away the motivations behind these comments.

    Some frustrated closet cases entrench themselves in certain popular organizations on campus. And there they rot, turn bitter, and become a danger to sexual minorities as they try to pretend to be something they’re not for four years.

    I am not out, and yet I am suspect. Last semester I was sexually assaulted. To come out would not make things better. It would only further compromise my safety.

    I really do wish I could come out. I wish I could sing the praises of my wonderful boyfriend of four years, as you other men do your girlfriends. But instead I pretend I’m just too busy to date. Just can’t find the right woman.

    I finish my piece with a general plea for everyone on campus to be kind. Be kind to each other. That is all I ask. Saying, “That’s so gay!” is not kind. Chanting, “Fucking Faggot!” when another guy’s i-pod shuffle slips into some N’Sync or Tina Turner is not kind. Suggesting that queers be punished for a facet of their identity that they cannot change is not kind. All I ask is that you please be aware of what you say. Everyone is fighting their own secret battle. No one escapes life unscathed.

    AMICUS

  • Timothy Daniel Smith

    Dear anonymous person,

    I do not hate homosexuals. However, what they are doing is wrong and dangerous, not only to themselves, but also to society. In the book of Leviticus, God says “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination…Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these ways of life the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before your face.” Leviticus 18:22-24 Homosexuals are committing a serious sin, one that is destroying both their souls, as well as society.

    Please do not misunderstand me when I say this. I do not believe that “all homosexuals are going to Hell,” as certain zealous evangelicals would spout from the pulpit. On the contrary, I believe that all people are equally able to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, provided they repent. St. Paul teaches: “the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane…for men who have sex with men…” 1 Timothy 1:15 What he means by this is that salvation is possible for all individuals, regardless of who they are or what sins they have committed, if they are penitent and change their ways. I could go to Hell for my sins just as easily as a murderer, a thief, or a homosexual, should I fail to repent from them.

    With that said I will not idly stand by and pretend that what homosexuals do is okay. God Himself has condemned homosexuality and warned against it. It is a serious problem in our society that needs to be openly and directly addressed.

    Again, I will state that I do not hate homosexuals. I do not approve of or condone their actions, either. Instead, I pray for their repentance and coming to Jesus Christ.

    I will continually pray for you, anonymous person. I urge you to pray to God so that He may help you to struggle against the sin of homosexuality. I also urge you to seek the help of the Church. The Church is not your enemy; it is there to help you redeem yourself and to facilitate your salvation.

    May God bless you in your struggles,

    Sincerely,

    Timothy Smith

  • Anonymous

    Timothy, would you care to explain the story of David and Jonathan for me?

    Don’t hold back.

  • Amanda

    Timothy –

    I have continuously run into this argument with friends when discussing homosexuality – it’s discouraging no matter how many times I hear or read it. Maybe you do not actively hate homosexuals, but such an attitude is perpetuating the hate of homosexuals, the fear created by that hate, and the silence of people on this campus.

    I know I can say nothing that will change your mind. It’s already made up according to the (sometimes contradictory) teachings of the Bible. But I will say this: my God, the God that sent Christ, would not put people on this earth to be subject to this sort of ridicule, hate, and fear. In my own reading of the Bible, I am more or less convinced that it is the lessons and parables of Jesus Christ that should guide our morals in tolerance and, more importantly, acceptance, of others and the lives they choose. While your biblical quotes are impressive, they are not truly reaching the heart of Christianity as I have understood and tried to practice it in daily life.

    Where we fundamentally disagree is that homosexuality is not inherently immoral. But I can agree with you on one point: the issue needs to be openly and directly addressed, which is why these articles and discussions are so important. Nevertheless, it is also important to remember that such a large issue cannot be discussed according to one book or one religious point of view. Personal experiences, science, and aspects of queer theory are essential to understanding this issue – you cannot limit yourself to one viewpoint! Even if you don’t hate, all you are doing is judging others (something, I believe, the Bible also frowns upon) without actively trying to understand them. So, by all means, continue to pray, but not for “Anonymous” to change who he or she is for your own peace of mind.

    Thanks,
    Amanda

  • AMICUS

    Thou pray’st not well.
    I prithee, take thy fingers from my throat;

  • Questions?

    Mr. Smith,

    Could you please elaborate on how homosexuality is a danger to society?

    Out of curiosity, do you believe homosexuality is a choice or an ingrained part of ourselves (ie DNA)?

    Thanx.

  • Adam

    It comes down to this…

    Whomever wrote that part of the bible must’ve been a heterosexual. For only a heterosexual could make the mistake of believing being a homosexual is a choice. It is NOT a choice. Gays do not CHOOSE to be gay, just as straight persons do not choose to be straight. It may be genetic, it may be hormonally induced, it may even be a product of upbringing. Whatever the CAUSE it still is not a CHOICE.

    I strongly disagree with the idea that homosexuals are thus sinners because God made them that way. Murderers CHOOSE to murder. Thieves CHOOSE to steal. But I didn’t choose to like men. Just as nobody else chooses who they love. It just happens naturally.

    I am glad to hear you do not hate gays. That’s a step in the right direction. But the idea that has been embedded into your mind that what we “do” is evil just induces more hate and bigotry, which as Amanda stated, goes deeply against the ideals Jesus Christ shared with the world.

    Thanks,
    Adam

  • Levi Grandt

    Amanda,

    I noticed how many times you refer to your understanding of the Bible. Jesus was no hippie. He taught the truth, and the truth is not subject to yours or anyone else’s interpretations or understandings. Love and accpetance are two fundamentally different things. Jesus taught love, but the kind of acceptance that you advocate is not in the teachings of Jesus or the Bible. It is clear that homosexuality is a sin, and your understanding of what Jesus said does not change what is right and what is wrong. Once we begin to change the Bible to fit our beliefs and lifestyles, there is no way to know just what in the Bible is true if we start to change things for the sake of our own convenience. I encourage you to look a little deeper into the Bible and try to understand what God is saying, not what you want Him to say.

    Also, I would like to point out that I am neither a hater nor a homophobe. I love and accept homosexuals as people, but I cannot stand by and act like what they do is okay. I would never hurt any of them, and I encourage them to “come out of the closet” and get help.

    I recognize the rights of homosexuals to be who they want to be, but I do not believe who they want to be is the same as what they should be. If I accept what is as what should be, then I really do not have any moral boundaries, but what God says is clear and cannot be changed. I believe homosexuality is wrong, but I would be willing to talk open-heartedly to any man or homosexual who was willing to open his mind to changing what he is not only for a better life but for the kingdom of God.

    If you are a homosexual, you were not born this way. I was born with a tendency to be an alcoholic, but it does not mean I should succumb to those desires. Undoubtedly, it would lead to a dangerous lifestyle if I were to follow that path, but I choose not to take that path, and I hope that you do not believe it is to late to change because it is not. Thank you for listening, and I hope this helps.

  • Levi Grandt

    I would also like to respond Adam.

    Do you believe that druggies, drunks, and thiefs can also not overcome or choose the product of their social upbringing, or genetic tendencies? There is no “gay gene” that makes you permanently and irreversibly gay. There may be a few genetic tendencies according to who your parents were, but that is far from being “not a choice.” Also, I would like to point out that heterosexuality is a choice if you choose not to be gay, or to be gay. Also, the permanence of heterosexuality would be due to the fact that it is natural. Whether you look at it through a Christian, or through a purely naturalistic framework, homosexuality does not make sense because it does not pass on genes and because, in the Christian framework, it is not what God wants for your life.

  • John Frank

    I will not respond directly to the religious arguments of Mr. Daniel or Mr. Grandt. Because I would be opposed to someone else trying to challenge my belief in the Bible or the way I have come to read and understand the Bible, I will not say whether or not I think how they have come to understand the Bible’s views on homosexuality is right or wrong (in line with the teachings of Jesus or not).

    However, I do feel comfortable talking about the effects of such beliefs on homosexuals. From the standpoint of someone who is familiar with the current research on homosexuality and the effects of negative attitudes on homosexuals, having and expressing beliefs that are not accepting of homosexuality can be harmful. Homosexuals are at a higher risk for depression, stress, and suicide. They are bullied and harassed in schools and some are even kicked out of their homes. Granted, there has been no study that shows directly that negative, religious-based beliefs lead to suicide and depression. However, we can look at predictors of suicide resiliency to see what is needed to keep homosexuals from killing themselves and living successful, healthy lives. Surprisingly, it’s not conversions to heterosexuality that keep these gay people alive. Rather, it is being accepted for who they are and receiving support from family, friends, and other groups that predicts resiliency to suicide. And by support, I do not mean support of the person but not of what they do or whom they love. You cannot support one without supporting the other. Homosexuals must be loved, welcomed, accepted, and supported as homosexuals.

    If you really want to help homosexuals, you have to realize that it is not something that can or should be changed. I disagree with the comparison of homosexuality to alcoholism on many levels, but the distinction I’d like to discuss now is that the negative effects of alcoholism are real and come directly from drinking while the negative effects of homosexuality (depression/suicide) come from the judgments and prejudices of others and from not being accepted in society. At its core, homosexuality is about love and should not have any negative effects on the homosexual or those around him/her.

    I will end with this: Love is a good thing.

    Also, I did not include citations, but if you are curious where I found the research to support my arguments, I would gladly show you where to find it.

  • Nolan

    Levi,
    I take offense to your statement “I would be willing to talk open-heartedly to any man or homosexual who was…” What this statement says is that homosexuals are not men. I sincerely hope this was not your intent and encourage you to think more closely about what you write in the future.

    I would like to get more information about your thoughts on homosexuality as a choice. More specifically, I would like to start a discussion about why you must think early people involved in gay rights were masochists. They must have been though, to subject themselves (due to their sexual orientation) to the hatred and physical abuse so prevalent (then and to a lesser degree, now.). I don’t understand why anyone would want to go through that hell unless they felt as though there were no other alternatives. I think to say that they made a choice which in some cases resulted in their murder is just a little bit extreme. That’s not to mention the people who commit suicide unable to deal with their “choice” and the ramifications of that “choice” among their family and friends.

    More generally, as far as biblical references are concerned, I have a few I’d like to add to the discussion:
    >Leviticus 11:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. Well, there go eating the crab cakes at D-Hall.
    >11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
    >11:8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
    What does this say for all the football players who used to willingly play with pig’s bladders? Is there enough soap in the world to clean them?
    >Exodus 21:7 lets us sell people into slavery. Where do we start the bidding? I got over $100 bucks at the APO date auction last year.
    >Exodus 35:2 doesn’t let me work on the sabbath. I have a confession. Despite my best efforts, I always ended up doing homework on Sunday nights. Apparently, I’m supposed to be put to death. Does that mean I have to do it myself, or can I call the cops and let them do it?

    Just some other things to consider while we’re talking about what the Bible says.

  • Alex Vlasic

    Dear Timothy (and Levi),
    I’m glad you shared your point of view because it’s important for these discussions to continue on our campus. But I disagree with what you say. You say that homosexuality is dangerous to society, but I cannot find a basis to your claim. Homosexuals among other sexual minorities have made and are making wonderful contributions to communities and to the world as a whole. If you need examples, some include: Ralph Waldo Emerson, Walt Whitman, Oscar Wilde, Harvey Milk (I highly recommend the movie), and Ellen DeGeneres among them. How their love lives affect you, or anyone else for that matter, is beyond me. I find your comparison of homosexuality to theft and murder offensive and dehumanizing. Theft and murder are threats to society because they negatively affect all people. Homosexuality harms no one. Individuals’ personal relationships are their own business, and they have don’t have an effect on people outside of those relationships. In fact, I would argue that through discrimination, modern society harms homosexuals and other sexual minorities, rather than the other way around.

  • http://www.soulforce.org/index.php Katelin French

    Dear Timothy,
    You letter deeply pains me as your sister in Christ.
    To say you do not hate homosexuals and to then condemn them for that very characteristic is a direct contradiction. As Christians, we have no business preaching change before we preach love. Christ did not require that, nor should we. I do not know how Christ reconciles the verses you mention (though here are some LGBT-affirming possibilities: http://www.soulforce.org/pdf/whatthebiblesays.pdf), but I do know that in his ministry his love and grace come first in his message, not the dogma of condemnation that is so often exulted. I absolutely believe one can be a Christian and be LGBT. And there are milions of LGBT Christians that somehow see beyond the hate of their brothers and sisters and manage to keep their vision of the cross clear–by the grace of God, despite his followers.

    What comes after that is not even for me to decide–I can’t say that LGBT can go to heaven any more than I can say they can’t. This is not an LGBT issue, but rather an issue of whether I place my own discernment and judgment above that of God’s–I did not die on the cross, so I dont get to decide–and thank goodness! I am an ignorant person–not in anyway qualified for such situations.

    A video I might suggest: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1219608346345310021. It is a sermon by Rev. Dr. Mel White. Very interesting.
    Thank you,
    Katelin

  • Adam

    Has anyone heard of over-population?

    If everyone was heterosexual and had as many babies as they could (encouraged by the Catholic Church and many Christian sects) the world would be severely over-crowded.

    Maybe God made homosexuals as a means of population control. + Adopting some of the children that hetero couples can’t support! Yep, that definitely sounds evil.

    and NO NO NO NO. Did you wake up one day and think to yourself “Hm…today I think I’m going to like women instead of men?” NOPE. It just happened. You never made a concious choice of preferring heterosexuality to homosexuality. And please don’t compare being gay to being an alcoholic. There is no parallel between them whatsoever. Please also do not tell me what is going on in my head. I can TELL you that I do not choose to be gay. It is who I am. If, at the beginning, I could’ve chosen to be straight, I probably would’ve, so I wouldn’t have had to deal with this kind of ignorant bigotry.

    Ugh, I hate ignorance. Stop hiding behind the bible so that you can hate others.

    -Adam

  • Anonymous

    Hello,

    I am the anonymous student who wrote this original letter. Since it’s publishing, I have spent a great deal of time contemplating my feelings regarding my homosexuality. Thankfully, I have been able to meet many other people who are both in and out of the closet here at the University of Richmond. As a result, I have begun to feel more secure with my own presence in our community. However, I remain uncomfortable with the idea coming fully out of the closet just yet. Simply stated, an atmosphere of fear and intimidation still exists on this campus. During my interview for the Collegian’s first article about LGBTQ students, Mr. Petty asked something along the lines “Is your fear valid?” I have been grappling with this issue myself for some time now. The way I see it, there are two sides of this issue. The first is illustrated by Mr. Fancy who says that he feels fine as a gay student at Richmond. The other is fueled by various media stories such as “On November 7, 2008 in Newton, NC the home of openly gay Melvin Whistlehunt was destroyed by arsonists; Investigators found homophobic graffiti spray painted on the back of the house.” As of yet, I consider myself lucky not to have faced direct physical violence while at this University. Yet, I do have personal experience with intimidation – in high school I was threatened if I did not take active steps to hide my homosexuality. To this day, I limit my social activities because of the rumors of hatred I might meet if I participated in certain activities. The stories I hear from fellow students and alumni are worse yet, involving getting spit on at lodge parties, getting cars keyed, and suffering threats over the campus phones and defaced white boards. I appreciate the acknowledgement from Mr. Ross that these perpetrators will be rightly punished; however, punishment comes after the act has been already committed. We must work to ensure that no punishment is necessary because the act hasn’t been committed in the first place. Punishment will only go so far, education is the answer. Amicus’ story of his sexual assault exemplifies the issue. The prevention of acts such as these should become one of the main goals of the University of Richmond. I believe that addressing the sources of the atmosphere of fear would prove an extremely beneficial project for the university.

    Dean Bowman’s recent email addressing the new initiatives the university will be taking to address these issues is a step in the right direction. So far, the educational endeavors concerning LGBT issues on this campus have been limited at best. I sincerely hope these new programs are pursued full heartedly and involve every aspect of the Richmond community. The issue of homophobia does not stand on its own but is closely tied to other important issues of bigotry such as race, gender, religion, socio-economic status, nationality, ethnicity, etc. Addressing all of these issues will undoubtedly lead to a more inclusive and tolerant community. Once the most disenfranchised member of our community feels accepted, then we can say success is near. This calls to mind my old high school’s lacrosse team’s slogan: “We are only as strong as our weakest link.” I hope for the successes of Dean Bowman’s new programs. His comments follow what Harvey Milk said, “all young people, regardless of sexual orientation or identity, deserve a safe and supportive environment in which to achieve their full potential.”

    At this time I also would like to thank the various friends, departments, faculty, and staff members that have been an enormous help to me. The resources at CAPS, Common Ground and the Deans’ Offices have also been extremely supportive. In fact, it seems as if the faculty and staff are more willing to discuss these important issues then students. Even my own friends are fearful to discuss the issues lest they “offend someone.” They do not understand that while they may offend me, I will not hold it against them and instead seek to educate them as to why they offended me. I would rather be temporarily offended and called upon to educate than discouraged by defeating silence. It is time for the silence that veils issues of diversity to be lifted.
    The recent responses to my original article have engendered hope that it is time to break the silence that for too long has plagued our campus. I appreciate the variety of responses to my article from individuals such as Amicus, Adam, Amanda, Ms. Vlasic, Mr. Frank and even Mr. Smith and Mr. Grandt. I understand where you are coming from in your opinions and arguments. However, I am afraid that not all of them withstand rational scrutiny. Nevertheless, please know that I am more than willing to discuss these issues further with you. My email is closetkid007@gmail.com (This email is open to anyone who wishes to communicate with me.)

    It is essential for me to put forth that while I am a atheist, I have never slandered the morals of Christianity or other religions. I have read both the Torah and Bible cover to cover. I have also begun reading the Koran and some writings of the Dalai Lama. I believe that a close, careful reading of religious texts is crucial for mutual understanding. I ask you: how much LGBTQ literature have you read? Furthermore, Harvey Milk warns of the problem of interpretation when he says, “More people have been slaughtered in the name of religion than for any other single reason. That, my friends, that is true perversion.”

    I would like to address a particularly provocative statement about the danger of homosexuality to society. Quite frankly, I do not consider myself a “danger” to society in any way shape or form. In fact, I am proud to say that I continually strive to improve it. I volunteer to build homes at Habitat for Humanity, participate in recycling drives, volunteer at hospitals, and take on in numerous civic engagement projects. Sadly, because I am a homosexual, I can no longer participate in blood drives (which save three lives per donation). I am checked more often for STIs and other diseases as compared to my heterosexual friends. In a financial context, “gay buying-power is projected to exceed $712 billion for 2008, according to a Witeck-Combs survey”. That amount could cover a majority of part of our county’s buyout package.

    As Amicus declared, “We walk among you.” We are present in every level of society from maintenance workers, nurses, lawyers, farmers, teachers, prime ministers, news anchors, authors, poets, maids, students, homeless, priests, doctors, research assistants, and the list goes on. I assume that another threat we may pose to our society is the threat to the institution of marriage. While the statistics vary, I think they speak of an already immense problem: “50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second and 74% of third marriages end in divorce, according to Jennifer Baker of the Forest Institute of Professional Psychology in Springfield, Missouri.” I personally believe that before I would commit to a marriage, which others and I have fought so hard for, I would consider it at great length and only go into one with full knowledge that it would last. I would not want to waste the tears and blood people have sacrificed to garner equality in our society.

    As I contemplate the rest of my future and goals, I will continue to live my life as a homosexual. It is absolutely not “lifestyle choice” because homosexuality is not a choice. I will no longer deny who I am and I vow to be more open about my sexuality: my closet door is slowly swinging open. Hopefully, I will find a world that is not as fearful and hate-filled as in the past. After watching the film Milk, I will forever remember two quotes ““If a bullet should go through my head let that bullet go through every closet door” and “Hope will never be silent.” I will not be silent anymore and neither should the rest of the Richmond Community and world!!!

    Thank you,
    Anonymous
    (I do this anonymously due to a fear of a financial consequence from my parents.)

  • Kevin Grayson

    I really do not see how a person who is male/female being homosexual affects anybody else’s life. Those of you who hide behind the bible and recite all these verses are complete cowards. Its not about the bible says this or that, it’s about homosexuals being human beings. If your family member brother/sister was a homosexual would you hate them and preach to them that they are an abomination. If you are comfortable with your sexuality then you should have no worry about a homosexual at all. For those that disapprove are you scared they might “turn” you or do you feel that you might get “curious”. Quite frankly your ignorance is appalling, and it’s a shame that some of you I have hung out with and partied with, but your comments are shocking. This campus I agree is not accepting of anything that may be considered different. When I entered this school my freshman year, I had to deal with all kinds of racial issues. I hated this school just as much and even thought about leaving, but instead I chose to stay due to certain students showing me that all U of R kids weren’t rich, prepy-snot-nosed little kids that needed to hit puberty and find some sort of maturity level. Being a Junior here, I have seen how this campus can make people feel unwelcome. Sometimes I wonder if I wasn’t a football player on the now National Championship team, the same prejudice and hatred would be directed at me also being an African-American at this school. Those of you who live in your little bubbles need to wake up and realize that the world is full of people that are not like you, and hating them with bigotry and homophobia is not going to solve any problems what so ever. I will be the first person (well not the first cause others clearly are supporters of this anonymous person) but I support whoever this person is and feel they need to express themselves. To have the strength to even write the letter is courageous and I hope things here at this university get better for you. I can’t say that I have never mad a joke or said something was “gay” I;m not perfect either, but I was raised to not see color, gender, race ect. but to see people for who they are and with that said those of you who continue to belittle others whether they are of a different race, religion, gender, or sexuality need to grow the fuck up.

  • Sam

    A few points for clarity’s sake.

    1) Homosexuality is not a choice. Choosing to purposely make one’s life more difficult does not follow logically. Additionally, there is increasing evidence that homosexuality and its behavioral expression is the result of genetic, hormonal, and neuroanatomical influences. Conversely, there is ample evidence that any attempt to ‘convert’ homosexuals thus far has a spectacular failure rate. I will not entertain the idea that homosexuality is a choice; there is simply no empirical evidence to support this conclusion.

    2) The Bible is not a buffet. You do not get to pick and chose what you want to believe, especially with something like the Holiness Code of Leviticus which Nolan elaborates nicely. So, I hope for your sake, Timothy that God never sees you eating shellfish, with hair trimmed above your ears etc. I’m sorry, but it’s all or nothing with this sort of thing. To choose only those things that are convenient for your prejudices automatically calls your motivations into question.

    3) This is one line in thousands. To isolate and pick out one line that you think entitles you to discrimination is an incredible contradiction to the majority of its passages that teach acceptance, love, and respect. The Bible is not a weapon, and it was never meant to be one. Why not worry about murder and adultery? Or the hundreds of rapes perpetrated by missionaries in Africa? It seems these cases are more worthy of one’s energy.

    4) God himself sir, does not propose to judge man until the end of his days. Though you may claim you do not hate homosexuals, you nevertheless perpetuate this malice with your beliefs. This mentality concerning homosexuals is not only violence and a violation of the Bible’s teachings, it is completely irrelevant. Levi falls victim to his own precaution, thinking that his reading is superior or more ‘right’ than Amanda’s reading. This of course is a fallacy that any reader of literature knows all too well. Any interpretation of the Bible can be touted within reason (in other words, it would not be accurate to say the Bible is about pink elephants); the problems arise when one begins to think that his reading is the correct one. Why do you think God’s word is “clear” to you? Why, of the billions of people in the world, do you think that is “clear” to you? Indeed, who are you, Levi, to say what one “should” be? To think that you have this kind of authority is a repulsive manifestation of vanity. Get off your pulpit; you are no one to judge.

    5) Population control? I will afford Levi two concessions. First, he is correct that heterosexuality has persisted and still does persist because it is evolutionarily advantageous for a species to reproduce. It is obvious that homosexual couples do not have this ability. Second, while being homosexual is not a choice (see point one), its behavioral expression, to an extent, is a willful choice. Just as a heterosexual chooses to mate or not mate with a person, so too does a homosexual person. This is what is meant by Leviticus. However, in a world becoming vastly overpopulated every day, it makes sense that nature would take a course to prevent this inevitability. Although I can think of no (economical) empirical way of testing this, it stands to reason. In fact, we might actually be headed for a dramatic drop in the number of human beings, given that as women in the world receive more education, the number of new births decreases. Also, as to Levi’s second point, the repression of these instinctual behaviors can lead to any number of negative outcomes, for the individual and society.

  • Leigh Ann

    Virtually everything I would like to say in response to the recent posts has been stated; however, I am writing currently to show my support for the LGBTQ community.

    It has been argued back and forth whether Richmond has a campus environment that is welcoming to LGTBQ. I feel this is inconsequential. Clearly, there are students who are not comfortable expressing their full identity here. I respect that their experiences, which are different from mine and everyone else’s, have led them to feel this way. Nevertheless, it saddens me that these students must cover such a significant part of their character and life. As Kenji Yoshino says in his book Covering (One Book, One Campus), “we all cover to some degree.” We all have hidden some aspect of ourselves in order to fit in, whether veiling religious views, socioeconomic status, or even grades. It’s not fun, nor is it any way to live.

    This is my personal statement: I am an ally to the LGBTQ community. I accept (and love!) you for who you are. There is no need to cover for me. I believe there are many other allies on this campus, and I encourage these allies to display their support openly.

    Nevertheless, I respect your decision to cover considering your monetary and safety concerns. Thank you for making these everyday threats real to me and the rest of the campus community.

    In addition to individual remarks and actions, there are a lot of formal institutions that need reform on this campus. It is not okay when fraternity pledges wear homophobic t-shirts, it is not okay when students dressed in drag at ring dance are scoffed at or ignored, and it is not okay when same-sex dates are prohibited from Greek life socials.

    To those of you who say “I love the homosexual but not the act,” I say you cannot take the identity without the expression. It baffles me when students say they support LGBTQ but then squirm when they see pro-queer statements chalked on the forum or a same-sex couple holding hands.

    I encourage anyone struggling with “being Christian and being gay” to check out the link Katelin French left in her response. I do not feel comfortable getting into a Bible quoting competition; however, the Soul Force document includes some powerful and well-researched explanations. Rev. Dr. Mel White points out, “Even when we believe the Scriptures are ‘without error,’ it’s a risk to think our understanding is without error.” We are all human and are all fallible. If we were still taking holiness codes literally, we would be stoning non-virgin brides. Hmmm….

    Levi, I urge you to reconsider your comparison of alcoholism and homosexuality. Since the 1970s medical organizations and professionals have deemed homosexuality a mix of “pre and post-natal influences.” It is not a mental disorder and there is no need for a cure (American Psychological Association). This doesn’t have to go against the Bible. Rather it is just interpreting the Bible in new context. (Check out page 14 of the Soul Force document for more in-depth analysis of the social conditions when these passages were composed). There are a lot of issues with translation to take into account with these books as well, especially considering there is no word for homosexual in Greek or Hebrew.

    Another point: So sex is supposed to be procreative. What about sterile or infertile heterosexuals? Are they just as “unnatural?”

    I would like to end on the same note as John Frank: “Love is a good thing.” And as Anonymous points out, it is beautiful “when it lasts” – no matter the gender/sex of person A or person B.

  • Kevin Grayson

    Can someone organize a forum or something so people can debate in person; I would love to see peoples’ facial expression when they actually say that dumb shit out of their mouths. Sorry to throw in those choice words, but I could not hold them back. Just by having discussions with other people lately, there are really some ignorant people here and damn it pissing me off. Seriously come on people the shits has to stop. I really want to personal talk with some of yall about this topic, but not on some university page. I think people should man up to their words and bring it to the forefront, cause I love debating.

    Im done now had to get it off my chest, this just brought up bad memories from freshman year that almost caused some people to get how can I say this “beat down” in this case though no one should be violent in any way possible but the assault shit should def. stop

  • Events

    Mr. Grayson there is an upcoming forum already formed for this week:

    Discussion: Religion and the Search for LGBT Rights (Part 1) — Questions of Sexual Identity
    March 5, 2009 from 12pm to 1pm – Wilton Center Library

    This free lunch discussion is part of a series in the Chaplaincy’s Interreligious and Justice program with open discussion about the week’s topic. Anyone is welcome and free pizza and drinks are provided.

    Hopefully, more programming will come up after spring break